Based on ESPN's reporting of Rob Pelinka lying, here's his exact quote about the Kobe-Ledger story:
One of the more aesthetically pleasing dunks - Gerald Green gets his own rebound and double-pump dunks it on D Wade 2017 playoffs
NBA TV Kobe Bryant did not become Kobe until Phil Jackson got there Jordan did not win until Phil Jackson got him - Zeke knows Rick Carlisle's championship experience is a difference-maker for the Pacers in the NBA Finals
Kobe Bryant learned how to study film from a pair of the greatest coaching minds ever in Phill Jackson and Tex Winter It would take Kobe over 5 hours to study one game