And whats interesting is both sides of this media equation talk to each other now and the conversations dont go well Because you have one guy on one side trying to describe why the help side defense of OKC is so fascinating and the other guy is like how do we feel about Chet as a person

Puck Hamby If big mainstream media outlets arent touching your Pablo Torre scoop to me thats not defending Steve Ballmer the NBA or the Clippers Thats like Is there anything here and are you just presenting this story for your audiencefor clout and clicks and building your audience

Quotes from Brian Windhorst Tim MacMahon Zach Lowe Chris Mannix and Jon Krawczynski describing how Clippers acted and lied personally to the media during the investigation Krawczynski It was a behind the scenes ferocious defense that was accusatory to anyone who dared question them

Haliburton The Knicks are they like our rival Yes But like are those guys I like those guys and their friends Yeah At the same time you know Im always like man thats fire but when the Knicks won I thought to myself I got to turn this sht off

Zach Lowe Joe House Chris Ryan draft their 15 favorite NBA Champs since 2000 Lowe asks why there was no love for the Kobe-Pau teams who went undrafted Ryan says You probably should have had a Californian on this podcast to balance the east coast lean of the panel Lowe responds Like Bill

Kenny Smith being an instigator provokes an argument between Chris Webber and Greg Anthony

Tony Kornheiser You went on this show a million times and you said they're not going to touch Steve Ballmer Well they touched him He's done Two weeks ago there was an ESPN report that was all over this network that the league found nothing