Nick Wright asks Shaq what Jokic needs to accomplish in order to be considered a top 5 center of all time He's on that list for me Shaq says he himself is not on that list

Shaq locks up MVP Tim Duncan

Nikola Jokic credits Jameer Nelson and Wilson Chandler as role models for his work ethic

Jokic talks about which defenders give him the most trouble

Zach Lowe Joe House Chris Ryan draft their 15 favorite NBA Champs since 2000 Lowe asks why there was no love for the Kobe-Pau teams who went undrafted Ryan says You probably should have had a Californian on this podcast to balance the east coast lean of the panel Lowe responds Like Bill

Blake Griffin gives his thoughts on the GOAT debate

Norman Powell says the Lakers are the most overrated team in the NBA